gohan vs goku who is stronger

Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ1 Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku. WTF are you talking about? There are a lot of comparisons to be made between different superheroes from different worlds and this one is a bit unique. Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. the only reason kid buu pushed it back was because goku was out of strength and left the genki dama stationary. It's obvious they meant he's unrestrained as in he's stronger and all his power is available to him now. the english dub is non canon so dont ever use it to prove anything. After going through the transformation, Goku became one of the strongest— if not the strongest— mortal beings in the Dragon Ball Multiverse. So no, super buu is not stronger than kid buu. Join me on my journey to … Personally, I think Ultimate Gohan is stronger, but there are a few weird things that could make it go either way. Meaning he is stronger then SS3 Goku. When super buu is transforming back into kid buu, goku and vegeta both state that his power is increasing. IMO Yes. did you even read what you just said? Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. SSJ3 Gotenks wasn't as strong as Super Buu either. . All these powers mean he could easily best Ultra Instinct Goku, and in a variety of ways. And btw none of these "traits" are powers. He may not have a lot of fighting experience, and be very immature and childish. http://www.mangareader.net/105-3156-12/dragon-ball/chapter-507.html, here goku is saying they have no possible way of taking on super buu, http://www.mangareader.net/105-3160-10/dragon-ball/chapter-511.html. DrunkenPilot72 11 years ago #5. iirc, Toriyama himself stated that Gohan was the strongest non-fused character in the series. And in GT, Gohan isn't "ultimate" anymore, as he can go SSJ, thus it shouldn't count on the topic about Ultimate Gohan. SSJ2 Gohan DID defeat Super Perfect Cell with his full power. As proof Goku with his child body couldn't use instant transmission a skill he used often as an adult. Hercules is the Olympian God of Strength and he might be one of the unique ones on this list capable enough of matching and overpowering Ultra Instinct Goku in terms of pure strength. Goku told Majin Buu that "a fighter even stronger then me is coming". a stationary genki dama is pretty easy to push back. gt is non canon and im smarter than you. Disasters GoOn (talk) 15:48, February 22, 2013 (UTC)Disasters GoOn. in funi dub, goku is clearly the strongest besides vegetto because he holds off kid buu whos the strongest of all buus. 121.222.11.242 07:16, August 15, 2011 (UTC). Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about Goku, who is a mere mortal and there are a lot of ways to hurt a Saiyan. If someone from the Marvel Comics wants to take him on, then they need to be cosmic beings or Gods, basically. That's when he started powering up, because he was pretty sure he could beat Kid Buu fully powered. 10 Marvel Superheroes Who Are Stronger Than Ultra Instinct Goku. cell supressed his power. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. OF COURES! But that deficiency can be easily made up by the creative superpowers he has. If Buu Saga, then it's clear that Mystic Gohan is much stronger than Super Buu, who was equal with the strongest SSJ3 at the time: Gotenks. Since gohan was weaker than goku at that point in the story and the unlocking ability made him stronger than super buu, I'd say so. and no goku wasnt able to fight buutenks at all. They have a great fighting style and it is "polished". power levle is all that matters in z. you should have realised that by now. Gohan was also able to force Goku to use SSB kaioken after tanking multiple hits from SSB Goku. gohan doesnt suck and he did train. you cant. goku had no idea what he was getting his son into and its only cos of 16 that the world was saved. Seriously you guys. 17:27, October 25, 2011 (UTC), Gohan=buutenks > gotenks ss3 =superbuu >kid buu > goku ss3 > fat buu > ss2 vegeta, Elder Kai stated that even if goku and gohan fought together against buutenks they would still lost. So his new base form was equivlant to a SSJ3 Gohan. Gohan's fight with Kefla in the manga version of Dragon Ball Super reveals that the son of Goku is much stronger than originally thought. If there were 1000 SSj3 Goku's during Buu saga, they would easily kill Buu, whereas you fail. This is also the case for Movie 12, as seen when SSJ3 Goku was beaten up by Super Janemba, who is put around having equal strength as Super Buu. 18:42, October 25, 2011 (UTC), Ya I figured that I was supposed to do that. When Mystic Gohan fought Super Buu, he easily crushed him, something that not even SSj3 Gotenks could do. in fact goku never won a fight by himself. Remember Super Buu tried to destroy the world to but Vegito stopped him. Afterwards he laughed it off. He sucks ok, at best he is equal with Super Buu. thats what they say but hes probably not much stronger than one.. . It is better if we just enjoy dbz. Gohan got beat by Buutenks. could roshi beat raditz? stop editing posts. Via imdb.com. Buu was able to trick them before and absorb them, it would be very risky as if buu absorbs one of them they would be screwed, goku feared that buu could absorb them again, Goku said that he wouldn't be able to beat Super Buu even if he and Vegeta ganged up on him. Kid Buu, is the original Buu. RELATED: Dragon Ball: Goku's Martial Arts Masters, Ranked From Weakest To Most Powerful. the others always arrived and saved his ass, using a team effort to finally win. He is way stronger than Goku/Vegeta, not about SSJ2 Gohan. And when he realixed that it was Gohan, he was in disbelief. But when Gohan fought Hirudegarn, he was easily beaten, while Goku, again as a SSJ3, easily defeated Hirudegarn with his Dragon Fist. Super Buu=SSj3 Gotenks (Post-RoSaT)>>>SSj Gotenks (Post-RoSaT)>>SSj Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT)=SSj3 Goku>Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT)>>Base Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT). And we already established this, GT base Goku (or maybe just SSj) = Z Goku SSj3. In light of the post attempting to prove SSJ3 Goku is superior to Mystic Gohan, I am going to briefly explain why Mystic Gohan is more powerful.The manga isn't even vague about this, so I've never really understood the argument to begin with. Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. Like Goku would ever turn up a fight if he knew he could win. They said Kid Buu is the difficult one because he's stronger not because he's crazy. Gohan is still quite a bit stronger than Super Perfect Cell. Except it's fully possible, has been done in GT, and your a complete idiot. not once did i see him use intelligence or polished fighting skills.". Like Goku would refute a fight unless he knew he couldn't win. Anyway, Gohan is just as strong as SSJ3, http://www.mangareader.net/105-3156-12/dragon-ball/chapter-507.html This cleary depicts Goku stating in the manga that he and Vegeta TOGETHER would be unable to defeat Super Buu, the same Buu that Gohan beat the crap out of. In an OPINION Goku is stronger than Gohan because that's all any of these can be are opinions. By default, she can take the power and memories of any person she touches, and that alone should make Ultra Instinct Goku fearful of her. Gohan had his power unlock twice. If you enjoyed, then like and Subscribe! READ THE MANGA WATCH THE ANIME! Then we have the newly formed Super Buu which is much stronger than Fat Buu. here kid buu is shown to have been damaged by ssj3 goku, an impressive feat. Thats just dumb. gotenks got crushed meaning that statements bullshit. You who writes in bold, I realise now that you are a complete TROLL, and refuse to speak with you any longer, since you almost never give any evidence and make absurd claims. Who was stronger, not the better fighter, but stronger in raw power. ssj3 is only 4 times stronger than ssj2. The fact his arm got injured just made Gohan think he was down to half of his power due to his special confidence problems. Magic is one thing that can provide anyone bearing it the advantage in a fight. DrunkenPilot72 11 years ago #5. The question is asking if Ultimate Gohan is stronger than a SSJ3 not SSJ3 Gotenks or Goku. User:Dbzfan999sig 18:21, October 25, 2011 (UTC)This is the right answer. Gohan effortlessly handled Super Buu, so add a Piccolo and to baby SSJ, and Gohan was still going to do his thing. Zenoftw"I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." Making Gohan lose his confidence to beat him. I agree, as stated in wiki, Gohan, even as Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is able to use SSJ1 and 2, it said that Gohan BARELY USES IT after he became Ultimate/Mystic Gohan. Frankly, Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is just as strong as SSJ3. Base Gotenks = SSj3 Goku, WTF! no you dont. When Vegeta and Goku say that Kid Buu>Super buu it was when it was transform to the Ultimade Buu when he absorve the North kai That strong Kai. there is no need to divide up other people's posts and insert your 2 cents. one of the english dubs call piccolo "big green". for example goku wanting gohan AND gotenks to fight. Gohan was the strongest unfused character in the whole series. What do you mean Goku had no faith in his power? It'd be logical to say tha Kid Buu is as strong as or stronger than Super Buu's base form. for one, the massive MASSIVE gap between ssj2 gotenks and ssj2 goku, means the gap carries on to ssj3. Some say SSJ3 Goku is stronger. Share Share Tweet Email. Dragon Ball Super Episode 90 Was Incredible!! You just claimed Goku SS3>Buuhan. Tokeupdude 18:36, January 13, 2012 (UTC). not as much as they could give. Gohan does not. he was most likely fighting seriously, otherwise goku wouldnt have damaged him. That means he must also relearn how to transform into a SSJ. yea goku made a logical move in war, Damn it Gohan was unconscious and Goku didn't have the time to save him.Ucell 07:10, January 13, 2012 (UTC), Just look at this. You're wrong. U r twice as strong as u were ever before, your speed your power". When the people of a society agree that sacrificing a child is acceptable collateral damage then IMO it has become a society that's not worth saving. Goku even said in the anime himself Gotenks is stronger then him. experience be damned. Why did he never tell him about his power and that he would destroy the universe until he came. Gohan? SSJ3 Goku is indeed stronger than Ultimate Gohan. You could construe this a few ways, you could say Goku was saying that because he himself couldn't beat him, or perhaps simply because Gohan was already fighting him, so he wanted to let Gohan finish the job, or because he didn't want to transform into SSJ3 because it consumes so much power, so he thought Gohan was more well-equipped since he was already powered up. There aren't a ton of fictional characters who can stand up to Goku in Ultra Instinct form, but Marvel has a few that could make short work of him. He wasn't smiling, he was serious, goku also said they were no match for his strenght, See when vegito got absorbed and goku and vegeta ventured inside of buu. First of all, everyone knows about SSJ3 Gotenks having a slight advantage over Super Buu, and Ultimate Gohan had an overwhelming advantage, thus making him stronger. So the gap is only 400 times at the most, which still proves nothing. Was it because kid buu was PURE evil, when Super Buu was the type to always want to turn people into chocolate and wanting a challenge. goku didnt NEED vegetas help or shenrons. On top of that AFTER he fought Kid Buu he said at full power he could beat him so obviously at full power he's stronger as he knew what Kid's strength was when he made that statement. Gohan also gets smashed in like 2 hits. If they were both at full power/stamina. Goku just stated that SSJ1 Gotenks is eitheir stronger then him or at least around his SSJ3 strenght. Goku didn't had enough energy to remain an ssj3 for a long time that is why he was counting on the fusion technique. goku said that him (in ss3) and vegeta (in ss2) cldnt beat super buu and that they wld lose while gohan single handedly pwned super buu. While Gohan just intercepted a blast that would have killed Vegeta. Others follow the Anime. your opinion is worthless because you follow a dub that is basically fanfiction and intentionally dumbed down for little kids. If you can't seriously understand that SSJ3 Goku or Ultimate Gohan would outclass those boys then you clearly didn't watch the anime or read the manga. Just like Vegito and Super Buu after absorbing Gohan's battle was one sided. goku stated that he could PROBLY beat kid buu( my opinion the strongest buu cause vegeta said his power increased after piccolo, gohan, goten, trunks buu was released). It is quiet stupid to say that vegeta was comparing kid buu with fat buu. Goten easily has the most potential of the three but he’s never really been focused on, so he remains the weakest by several orders of magnatude. A key thing to note is how long Goku "fought" buutenks, if you look at the begining of Gohans fight with buutenks hes doing great as well however over time Buutenks quickly shows the gap between them. Chapter 507 page 12 Goku says "even though hes back to normal hes still far too strong for us" Goku clearly states that even working together with Vegeta that buu could still defeat them, this is the same buu that Gohan absolutely destroyed. When Mystic Gohan first came, Piccolo said that it must be Goku because it was the greatest power level he ever felt! gohan and the others gave very little contributions. Actually he does have proof, Super Buu has two Kais absorbed in him while Kid Buu has nothing in him. And yet he had a serious face and was nervous while buu was only smiling, I can't make it any simpler than that.Gohan is Supreme, Supreme is Gohan. She was able to summon mythical creatures, eat sines, and even raise the dead, among other things. yes it does. "Gohan is the strongest non-fused character at the end of Dragon Ball.". no he never "overestimated" gotenks. And when did you actually see Super Buu fight hand to hand? Okay wtf did you say? Goku also said later on if he went all out in SSJ3 he could beat Fat Majin Buu. So at this point all we can say is they are equal with maybe Gohan having the slight edge. Well in my opinion Gohan is stronger than goku because Gohan could easily won vs Super Buu. He also said he watched everything while he was in the other world so he knew of Gohan's strength yet he still said ONLY Goku can fight Kid. and what do you mean no hand to hand? Her superpowers are not something one would want to meddle with. Turns out it was SSj Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT), who was equal to SSj3 Goku's level (although, this was before Goku stated that, had he went Full Power SSj3 on Majin Buu, he'd kill him). There is NO evidence. Among her usual superhuman abilities, Jean is an omega-level telekinetic and telepath. But kid buu is weaker in power level than super buu. Most likely Ultimate Gohan due to him being one of the strongest characters in the anime, it's said that sometimes Gohan has the potential to even be stronger than Goku at times. I disagree, since Goku Gt = Z Goku SSj, if he went SSj3 he would count as 50 times Z Goku SSj3, which you cannot argue is far stronger than Ultimate Gohan in Z, not to mention in Gt. . Gotenks was barely able to keep up with Super Buu in his SSj3 form, whereas Goku was stronger than Fat Buu, and >= to Kid Buu. He was able to fight Super Buu Gotenks Absorbed for a short time. But there is no doubt that Ultimate Gohan is strong!! RELATED: Dragon Ball: 5 Things About Goku That Make Him Unique (& 5 Ways He's Generic). Who was stronger, not the better fighter, but stronger in raw power. you choose to ignore it out of fanboyism. gotenks is a fighting genius with natural talent beyond that of any full blooded saiyan. In GT, Goku is stronger in his SSj2 form, let alone his SSj4 form, which you also claimed could not beat Gohan in the above post. Goku also said that kid buu is twice as strong as ever before. Gohan was stronger than Cell, too, he just took a significant injury to save. And Piccolo and the others sensed that Buu became far stronger when he became Super Buu. Was going to school, gets married and has a job, while goku...is still training. So, no. And just for the record. This should be enough to prove that Gohan is stronger however some people like to refer to the filler fight between goku and buutenks and use that as evidence. Nah Goku is far more superior in intelligence remember Berrus stated that Goku is a prodigy, in battle IQ, although they both lack common sense, Naruto doesn’t have that battle IQ, as for Goku he can learn any ability he wants just by looking at it and he can also adapt to his ability very fast. The best source for why Gohan is better than goku, all facts and no opinions like all the other posts. Your an idiot, all u typed has opinion written all over it. I go by the FUNimation Dub. Goten is literally millions of times stronger than Goku was at his age and thousands of times stronger than Gohan was. SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku > Base Gotenks. Ultimate gohan could barley hold his own against super buu w/gotenks absorbed. And Gohan was even stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. In this video, it's shown a different type of showcase for Super Saiyan 2 Youth Gohan and new Super Saiyan Kid Goten from DBLegends. Goku had only used the transformation like maybe 4 times. Besides, in Z he doesn't go SSJ after he's been ultimatized because his full power has been released, thus power amplification transformations such as SSJ and SSJ2 have no room anymore, as he can't get any stronger. gotenks never had a chance and i doubt gotenks had increased that much in a week. So people need to stop using that as evidence. 15:08, December 28, 2011 (UTC). User Info: DrunkenPilot72. Why was Goten so underdeveloped? Here's why: after fighting Majin Buu, Goku implied that an even stronger warrior than him was coming. This argument proves my point that there had been a mistake in the story but some people wont agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, about the debate above, Gohan is a LOT stronger/faster than Goku, but seriously lacks fighting instincts. For example, Gotenks Ssj3 couldn't defeat Super Buu but Ultimate Gohan easily outmatches it showing that Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Gotenks Ssj3. Gohan seems to be the stronger fighter as iirc Goku turned SSB against A17 and said he'd try not to kill him and that the original subtitle was a mistranslation. I for one follow the Anime. Kid Buu is just Pure Unrestrained Evil(Kinda like broly) that is more dangerous than the other forms because he doesn't mind using it to blow up every single planet, that in no way means that he's more powerful. Of course Goku says, “Well, I can do it too.” Went down into the comments and there was a comment section war about who is actually stronger lol. Now one other notible thing is when Buutenks reverted to Piccolo Buu. Goku wanted to fuse with Gohan to beat Buutenks and fuse with Vegeta to beat Buuhan. Pikkon got outsmarted, ... Goku was encouraging Gohan to unleash his full power against Cell to beat him. This lets him conserve energy for when the battle is getting really tough. super buu definitely would let goku be full power for the sport of a challenging opponent. Piccolo knows that Gotenks' full power at the time(SSJ)couldn't be enough to beat the stronger Buu. This Chaos Magic allows her to bend reality to her will and she has used it loads of times, most notably in the House of M storyline where she created a new world for herself. piccolo had not sensed goku fight kid buu yet. Yet SSJ3 Gotenks fought equal with him and almost won until the fusion wore off. I highly doubt that is true. actually i do give evidence. If Goku had continued to train, yes, he would eventually have outpowered Gohan, but as in the end of Z we don't see how strong he's become in those 10 years, all we can do is speculate. if the answer to these is yes, then yes goku can defeat ultimate gohan. In the manga during the ToP he was above SSB Goku, probably around perfected level. in the manga, if you have a huge power, you win. Anyone who disagrees is either a fanboy or blind. But again, In the Wrath of the Dragon, Ultimate Gohan is defeated by Hirudegam who is again defeated by Ssj3 Goku. 10 Marvel Superheroes Who Are Stronger Than Ultra Instinct Goku. Take a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0Sxotf4aI. . At the time he was a SSJ2 and possibly had the ability to go SSJ3 with training. It is obvious that Kid buu is weaker than Super Buu because Goku could na.ot even handle Fat Buu. And started doing the whole "mind games" trick. The only point where Gohan is clearly in another league is for one major fight about 200 episodes in, after which time 7 years pass, with Goku training almost constantly and Gohan not training at all, so Goku … By Nishid Motwani Oct 12, 2020. In the normal world of the living, Gohans is stronger than goku simply because his energy consumption is much lower than ss3 goku. I know Buu said he was warming up, but Gotenks was clearly dominating the fight. Oh, and by the way Ultimate Gohan is his max power unlocked as his base form. here gotenks in ssj3 beats the living shit out of super buu then declares he will wipe him out so theres nothing left to regenerate with. Goku said, he didn't try his hardest when he fought Fat Buu, but he also said he didn't know if he could win. Gohan is definatly above Goku. Which gohan is more like his mother later on and just becomes normal human being pretty much, while goku is training to the extremewhile he is dead. NEXT: Goku Vs. Fat buu was wayyy wayyyy wayyy out of the scene. Topic Archived; Page 1 of 2; Last ; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. The person who commented above(not in bold) has already provided proof. Well in my opinion Gohan is stronger than goku because Gohan could easily won vs Super Buu. 18:16, October 25, 2011 (UTC). Share Share Tweet Email. Yes, I went there, GT. , so perhaps he could beat Super Buu as badly as Ultimate Gohan did. When Goku was letting Vegeta get beat up it was so he could gather energy to beat kid buu who is just as strong as super buu, canon. GOku said that him and vegeta cldnt beat super buu. Even though Goku faught evenly for a while, he was no match in the end because Kid Buu was toying with him. no he didnt. So in real life it's Gohan, and don't know if goku or gotenks because goku said he want sure if he could beat fat buu mainly because of his energy consumption rate but he also said he wanted to give someone else the chance of beating buu because he said he doesn't have the right to kill buu because he's dead Everyone who watches Dragon Ball knows the exploits of Goku and his recent incredible rise in power with the autonomous Ultra Instinct. This question depends on what stage of the manga you're asking about: Buu Saga (also counting Movie 12) or post-Buu Saga. Same goes to SSJ3 gotenks. AND the only reason kid buu pushed it back was because goku was too tired to push it. He did in fact say he could definately beat fat buu. The fact is due to the fact he had Piccolo's brain. When was there any evidence that Goku wasn't stronger than Super Buu? This disillusionment is evident thats why we r not able to decide who is mighty,goku or gohan. Goku's transformation was arguablly the hardest (to ssj) and after that it was childs play, not because of natural talent, but because they figured out how to do it from others. 2. goku ssj3 is stronger than ultimate gohan. And a big factor in a fight would be the energy output of both fighters. While Gohan just intercepted a blast that would have killed Vegeta. . my question is why the fuck didn't they just wish for immortality or infinite energy rather than energy restoration... WHAT THE FUCK. There aren't a ton of fictional characters who can stand up to Goku in Ultra Instinct form, but Marvel has a few that could make short work of him. vegeta said goku was the ONLY one who could fight kid buu. !Gohan is Supreme, Supreme is Gohan. Mystic Gohan could've destroyed Super Buu, which is waaaaay more powerful than Fat Buu. look what happened. Gotenks WOULD NOT beat Goku as he lacks the skill to fight at that level. LEARN TO FUCKING USE GRAMMAR AND SPELLING. The form is known as Binary and during this state, her powers can be compared to that of Ultra Instinct Goku, thus making her way stronger than Ultimate Gohan. base gotenks x 50 = ssj gotenks. Goku always wins. The same goes for Gotenks, they may be more powerful than Goku and Vegeta but those two have way more experience and skill than the raw power of Gohan and Gotenks. User Info: dragonball0900. Broly Rocks 08:52, August 21, 2011 (UTC). Goku also always uses his unique foresight that forces him to make certain decisions. 30 Stronger: Goku. Especially since he is the fusion of two Half-Saiyan Super Saiyan prodigies. at normal size, goku > super buu. Yeah right. He said "Gohan can handle you now". Cell's full power was far greater than Goku's but that didn't stop Goku or Vegeta beforehand from blowing half or a nice sized chunk of his body away. Gohan is way stronger. goku is rarely wrong and if he is, that means theres some contributing factor. so your looking at a gap of more than 3000 times121.222.11.242 04:05, August 20, 2011 (UTC). goku ssj1 in gt is comparable to what ssj1 gotenks was back then. That doesn't even make sense. Gotenks is younger and less experienced than both fighters band his technique is sloppy. VS. Don't think this has been done before.So in DBZ most people will agree that Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.In DBGT It is said that Goku The only point where Gohan is clearly in another league is for one major fight about 200 episodes in, after which time 7 years pass, with Goku training almost constantly and Gohan not training at all, so Goku takes the lead again. you make no sense and you sound mentally disabled. gt perfect files said gohan didnt slack, , but in the world of DBZ that's just how it is. 10 Things The Saiyan Can Do In Dragon Ball (That The God Of Destruction Can't) Beerus really showed Dragon Ball fans just how much stronger Goku needed to be. In the other world, ss3 is strongest because his energy consumption is a lot less rapid. no he didnt. Specialbeamkamehameha 15:28, August 13, 2011 (UTC). SSJ3 Goku said "Gohan can handle you now". Goku still able to take a several beating while provoking Hirudegarn = Tough It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. Anyways, Buu adds Gohan's power and  becomes even stronger than he was before. I think Ultimate Gohan is because He had no problem against Super Buu befor he absorbed Gotenks SSJ3. Was it because kid buu was PURE evil, when Super Buu was the type to always want to turn people into chocolate and wanting a challenge. Note that he used foresight during the cell games and when fighting fat buu, knowing he could win but deciding not to, so its possible Goku could've won. Piccolo makes a statement that Gotenks has a chance in beating Super Buu in just his base form. the same reason goku wanted to let gotenks handle fat buu instead of himself. he tried powering back up to full power but was left too tired. Then when buu absorbed piccolo and gotenks, his power level was the same as gohan, but he had piccolo's smarts. Of course Goku says, “Well, I can do it too.” Went down into the comments and there was a comment section war about who is actually stronger lol. Now about spirit bomb and gohan giveing his energy and it wasnt enough. - Tien, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCfHHyRTUSg, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0Sxotf4aI, TheDragonThatHasLongSinceForgottenHisName, https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Is_ultimate_Gohan_actually_stronger_than_a_ssj3%3F?oldid=1344764. Back to the point, Gotenks is HIGHLY unskilled in fighting, and only has an impressive power level. The Sentry has to be considered among the strongest of mutants to ever grace the Marvel Universe. Get on here talking about how much stronger Gotenks would be interesting to see Captain Marvel can also when. English dubs call piccolo `` big green '' strong as SSJ3 cosmic beings or,. 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